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THE CONSERVATIVE REVIEW
December 28, 2007
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Ron Paul on War
By John Stossel
Townhall.com
Ron Paul is the only Republican presidential candidate
saying we should get our troops out of Iraq now. Here's
more of my edited interview with the congressman.
Some people say that if we don't attack the enemy there,
they'll attack us here.
Ron Paul: I think the opposite is true. The radicals were
able to use our bases in Saudi Arabia and the bombing of
Iraq (from 1991 to 2001) as a reason to come over here.
If China were to do the same thing to us, and they had
troops in our land, We would resent it. We'd probably do
some shooting.
Is this case not different? Religious fanatics hate us and
want to kill us because of our culture.
I don't think that's true. It is not Muslim fanaticism that
is the culprit. The litmus test is whether we are actually
occupying a territory. In the case of Saudi Arabia, that
was holy land.
Many say the surge in Iraq is succeeding, that we're at a
turning point now, and we are creating a model of democracy
in a part of the world that hasn't seen that.
That's the propaganda. I don't happen to believe that.
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And if in most of Iraq, some religious fanatic comes to
power and has money to buy nuclear weapons, we should just
leave him alone?
The Soviets had the technology. They were 90 miles off our
shore, and they had nuclear weapons there. But we were able
to talk to them. We took our missiles out of Turkey. They
took the missiles out of Cuba. We should be talking to
people like this. It's the lack of diplomacy that is the
greatest threat, not the weapons themselves.
You say we shouldn't be the world's policemen. Isn't it
our responsibility to help others?
It's OK for us to personally help other people. But to go
around the world and spread democracy -- goodness, no --
too many unintended consequences. It usually requires
force. I think we should only do those things under the
prescribed conditions of the Constitution.
Is war ever justifiable?
Sure. If you're attacked, you have a right and an
obligation to defend (your) country. I do not believe
there is ever a moral justification to start the war.
So in World War II, we were justified?
Sure.
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How about going into Afghanistan after Sept. 11?
I voted for that authority to go after those responsible
for 9/11.
The Korean War?
Totally unjustified.
Kosovo?
Absolutely unjustified.
Vietnam?
A horror.
The first Iraq war? Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait. He might
have invaded the next country, and the next.
I bet Israel would have done something about it, and I bet
Saudi Arabia maybe would have talked to Israel. I think
if it would have been left to the region, they might have
taken care of Saddam Hussein in 1990 and we wouldn't have
the problems we have today.
What if there's genocide and terrible suffering in a
country?
It's a tragedy, and we can have a moral statement, but you
can't use force of arms to invade other countries to make
them better people. Our job is to make us a better people.
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You'd pull American troops out of Korea, Germany, the
Middle East, everywhere?
I would. Under the Constitution, we don't have the
authority to just put troops in foreign countries willy-
nilly when we're not at war.
If North Korea invades South Korea, we should just leave
it alone?
Sure, but it's not going to happen. South Korea's about
10 times more powerful than North Korea.
If China invaded Taiwan?
That's a border war, and they should deal with it.
If Canada invades Montana?
I think that might be a little bit different. Montana
probably could take care of it, but we'd probably help
them out from Washington if that happened.
That's a role for the federal government?
Oh, sure.
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